Printer jumps multiple times misplacing object

[fabiosoft]

I do have SD card, but i can't use it because the screen is not calibrated and every touch bring me to the same useless menu

Should i remove it when using octoprint?

[fabiosoft]

I replaced my old rpi1 with a new raspberry 3 + wifi... and happened again!
Now i have made a video... as you can see the extruder is working... but the positions jumps everywhere...

video
video2

ps: the file is still the same gcode generated from official slicer (which works good via usb with official software)

[foosel]

What are these regular clonky noises? Sounds like it's skipping steps.

Can you please pay attention to the terminal tab when it happens? I'd like to know if there's this "JumpToApp" stuff happens coincides with the shift. Also please share a full octoprint.log.

[fabiosoft]

I zipped all logs so you watch entire history.
The noise seems to came from the extruder i zoomed in the video with pulls the filament, and the retracts it... it does this noise only when operated with octoprint

logs.zip (9.9 KB)

[foosel]

So before we go any further here, first get rid of your undervoltage situation:

2019-11-07 17:47:58,851 - octoprint.plugins.pi_support - WARNING - This Raspberry Pi is reporting problems that might lead to bad performance or errors caused by overheating or insufficient power.
!!! UNDERVOLTAGE REPORTED !!! Make sure that the power supply and power cable are capable of supplying enough voltage and current to your Pi.

Once that is fixed, see if the issue persists and if so we can take it up from there.

[foosel]

Pi Undervoltage/power issues: I had a strange lightning bolt/temperature symbol with an exclamation mark popup in my navbar, what does that mean?

Starting with OctoPrint 1.3.10, the bundled "Pi Support Plugin" (only active when running on a Raspbery Pi) will regularly check if your Pi has detected any underlying issues via vcgencmd get_throttled. This command can detect whether your Pi is currently throttled, or has been in the past, either due to undervoltage or overheating. The Pi Support Plugin evaluates this information and displays corresponding icons in your navbar in case such a situation is detected: [image] In the above examp…

[fabiosoft]

I'm using a 2.4A iPad Tablet power supply... how is possible the under voltage alert?

[OutsourcedGuru]

An iPad tablet "power supply" isn't a power adapter. It's technically a charger. A power adapter—if you saw the output on an oscilloscope—would be a nice flat 5V. A charger—again on the oscilloscope—would be pulsating voltage whose "root mean square" is 5V.

[fabiosoft]

@OutsourcedGuru i'am about to order this one... it says "power supply" certified for raspberry... do you think it's good?

LEICKE Raspberry pi 3 Model B+ - Alimentatore di Rete da scrivania, 5 V, 3 A, 15...

[OutsourcedGuru]

In theory, it's a good one. I don't love that it has two outlets; it encourages users to plug two Raspis into it (and there's no guarantee that it will continue to supply the expected power to both). Feel free to try it but you might just want to stick with the official version.

Without switch
With switch

[fabiosoft]

These models are not available in my country, so i will order that and put tape on a usb port to not tempted to plug another raspberry! ahahah

Anyway... in your opinion if the raspberry doesn't reboot how can low power amperage disturb octoprint?

[fabiosoft]

Another thing i noticed is when the octoprint connects by serial first time the print makes a reset beep... i cannot ear that sound during good or wrong printing... does octoprint quinckly reconnect making the nozzle jumping around??

[OutsourcedGuru]

Anyway... in your opinion if the raspberry doesn't reboot how can low power amperage disturb octoprint?

Professor-mode engaged...

Electronics of all kinds depend upon the correct VCC (or main input voltage). The ones and zeroes of digital circuits need some in-between amount as a threshold: above this is true (one), below this is false (zero).

So the Raspberry Pi has an arbitrary 4.64VDC lower limit on incoming voltage (where it wants to see 5.0V). If your incoming voltage drops to that 4.64VDC level then the Raspberry understands that bad things can and will happen:

• the Ethernet and wifi devices at this level become problematic and the Pi may even turn them off
• the microSD reader/writer at this level becomes problematic and may fail
• serial communication at this level becomes problematic and likely leads to communication errors
• communication to an attached thumbdrive at this level becomes problematic and may lead to corruption
• the ability to swap RAM to the swapfile at this level becomes problematic and may lead to a kernel crash

Think of it as a financial crisis akin to the conditions before a company goes out of business.

[OutsourcedGuru]

when the octoprint connects by serial first time the print makes a reset beep

That sounds like something your firmware or your printer board does. Perhaps it does a power reset on connection but that would be odd. Or maybe it's just letting you know that a host computer has connected over serial.

[fabiosoft]

yes i know it comes from the printer firmware since also connecting with official EasyPrint control software behaves the same

[fabiosoft]

New power supply arrived...same result!
The clonky noise appear to be the extruder... not extruing... and seems conflicting...no filament comes out i recorded a video...
extruder video
allLogs.zip (11.9 KB)

No one of these problems with usb control from windows.

Here is the terminal log

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I don't know what could be...

[OutsourcedGuru]

The angle of the video doesn't allow us to see the extruder. We could then guess that...

• the extruder's height is too high above the last layer and the filament is making a mess now at the hotend and it isn't adhering to anything
• the hotend is now jammed, no filament is coming out of it and the sound is the feed gear slipping

Only you would be able to see which is which.

[foosel]

2019-11-09 14:39:46,762 - octoprint.plugins.pi_support - WARNING - This Raspberry Pi is reporting problems that might lead to bad performance or errors caused by overheating or insufficient power.
!!! UNDERVOLTAGE REPORTED !!! Make sure that the power supply and power cable are capable of supplying enough voltage and current to your Pi.

I'm sad to say that according to your Raspberry it's still not getting enough power.

[fieldOfView]

Have you tried printing (extruding) slower? It sounds like the extruder is skipping steps, ie you are trying to feed material faster than the extruder stepper motot can handle.

[fabiosoft]

how can i change it? I used CURA and official software for slicing